"Out of Africa comes a story of bravery and boldness in Christ that we in America need to hear. There was an young African pastor who was caught in the struggle between an Islamic rebel force and the existing government of his nation. When his village was overwhelmed by rebels, they demanded that he renounce his faith. He refused. The night before they took his life, he wrote the following lines on a scrap of paper:"
"I am part of the "Fellowship of the Unashamed." I have Holy Spirit power. The die has been cast. I've stepped over the line. The decision has been made. I am a disciple of His. I won't look back, let up, slow down, back away, or be still. My past is redeemed, my present makes sense, and my future is secure. I am finished and done with low living, sight walking, small planning, smooth knees, colorless dreams, tame visions, mundane talking, chintzy giving, and dwarfed goals!
I no longer need preeminence, prosperity, position, promotions, plaudits, or popularity. I don't have to be right, first, tops, recognized, praised, regarded, or rewarded. I now live by presence, lean by faith, love by patience, lift by prayer, and labor by power.
My face is set, my gait is fast, my goal is heaven, my road is narrow, my way is rough, my companions few, my Guide reliable, my mission clear. I cannot be bought , compromised, detoured, lured away, turned back, diluted, or delayed. I will not flinch in the face of sacrifice, hesitate in the presence of adversity, negotiate at the table of the enemy, ponder at the pool of popularity, or meander in the maze of mediocrity.
I won't give up, shut up, let up, or burn up till I've preached up, prayed up, paid up, stored up, and stayed up for the cause of Christ.
I am a disciple of Jesus. I must go till He comes, give till I drop, preach till all know, and work till He stops. And when He comes to get His own, He'll have no problems recognizing me. My colors will be clear."
Hey guys. We are passionate about what we believe in. Never before on this website, have I seen SOOO many good, well thought out posts.
Obviously this is more the kind of thing this board was made for.
Of course people are gonna be mad at it, but others will love it. The only way to please everybody, without offending anybody is to make it shallow.
By the way, I was glad you typed that whole story out. I never jnew that this was the story and main inspiration of the song: Soul Fire, by Christafari.
Thank you sooo much for sharing this.
How very interesting. Christians are accused of being stuck-up, self-rightious, "have absolutely no tolerence" snobs, and yet look at you people telling Tim to not post his wallpaper. Your not tolerating his view at all! The Bible tells Christians to love people, but here you guys are, hating Tim just because he posted something he believes in (and I do also, if you haven't figured it out yet).
Just a thought...what if a Muslum were to post a wallpaper on kde-look.org with the Koran on it. What would be the reaction? People may not download it, and some people may not like it, but would there be many posts telling the creator of the wallpaper how his wallpaper sucks and he should keep his religion to himself? No. So why are people so opposed to Christians? If you've read some of the New Testiment you know that Christians are supposed to be kind and loving to all. That does not mean that they should accept all religions as true, but that they should treat all other people with respect. If you are one of the people who hate Tim's wallpaper, think about why you hate it/them. I don't think you'll have a very good reason.
P.S. Keep up the good work, Tim!
“How very interesting. Christians are accused of being stuck-up, self-rightious, "have absolutely no tolerence" snobs, and yet look at you people telling Tim to not post his wallpaper. Your not tolerating his view at all! The Bible tells Christians to love people, but here you guys are, hating Tim just because he posted something he believes in (and I do also, if you haven't figured it out yet).”
Disliking a wallpaper is not the same as hating its creator (or his believes). I for one do not hate Tim.
”Just a thought...what if a Muslum were to post a wallpaper on kde-look.org with the Koran on it. What would be the reaction? People may not download it, and some people may not like it, but would there be many posts telling the creator of the wallpaper how his wallpaper sucks and he should keep his religion to himself? No.”
Are you sure? I think there will be quite a lot of negative comments some probably even insulting. We have seen it before, just like we have seen wallpapers claiming one religion to be better than another. That is the reason why some of us do not like to see wallpapers with any religious (not just Christian) or political messages. We like to keep KDE-look neutral, so everyone, irrespective of cultural and religious background can enjoy this site without being offended. There are no doubt much more appropriate websites for wallpapers with political or religious messages.
This is not intolerance nor is it denying someone’s right to free speech, it's just common sense. All that is being said is that this isn’t the place for those kinds of messages.
“So why are people so opposed to Christians?“
The world doesn’t work according to: you are either with us or against us. Disagreeing with some ideas is not the same as opposing. This may surprise you but some of Tim’s commentators do come from Christian backgrounds, they just don’t shout it of the roofs.
“If you've read some of the New Testiment you know that Christians are supposed to be kind and loving to all. That does not mean that they should accept all religions as true, but that they should treat all other people with respect. If you are one of the people who hate Tim's wallpaper, think about why you hate it/them. I don't think you'll have a very good reason.”
Once again: for most commentators hate does not come into it. Common sense does. Let’s keep KDE-look and the wallpapers free from ANY political and religious wallpapers so everyone can enjoy a nice neutral site that centres on eye-candy for KDE.
Thanks for the vote of support John. I have no plans to go anywhere for the forseeable future. This is a privately run site and as long as the owners allow my work, there's no valid reason to leave.
It'd be nice if people could learn that a life of non-offense is not reasonable to expect...unless of course we all dump any and all convictions and don't express what we believe anywhere. But that is not realistic.
Again, Blessings to you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, who died in our place to redeem us.
Tim
"It'd be nice if people could learn that a life of non-offense is not reasonable to expect...unless of course we all dump any and all convictions and don't express what we believe anywhere. But that is not realistic."
Seems to work nicely where I am. I work for an International organisation and everyone gets along nicely precisely because everyone knows that there is a time and place for everything.
Oh..and I wonder..will your local church newsletter publish anything it gets send?
Hi again John:
It just occurred to me that part of what is going on is not that different than what Paul had to deal with in the first century as the Gospel was just starting to be spread...I'm remembering the accounts of when he'd be beaten, thrown out of Jerusalem and left for dead...and he'd just get right back up and go back again. While I do not dare compare myself to Paul, somehow I see a parallel between attitudes then and now. If we wait till we're given "permission", we'll never be able to speak! :)
I think it was Peter who underscored this principle when he said in his epistle to preach the Word, "in season and out of season". In other words, regardless of "appropriateness" or consequences. Whether you're ready or not. Whether it's on friendly turf or not. The stakes are too high.
Blessings,
Tim
Hi Tim,
This is exactly why I urge you to post your wallpapers somewhere more appropriate like a Christian site where you will find your target audience. Not the wallpaper it self but the accompanying text can (and probably will) be offending to other visitors, especially those with an Islamic background. We don’t need a clash of religions on this site.
I wonder if they would feel differently about this if the story was reversed? For example,it was a Christian persecuting and killing a Islamic believer.
Christianity remains the only socially acceptable area for intolerance today.
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Hey guys. We are passionate about what we believe in. Never before on this website, have I seen SOOO many good, well thought out posts. Obviously this is more the kind of thing this board was made for. Of course people are gonna be mad at it, but others will love it. The only way to please everybody, without offending anybody is to make it shallow. By the way, I was glad you typed that whole story out. I never jnew that this was the story and main inspiration of the song: Soul Fire, by Christafari. Thank you sooo much for sharing this.
How very interesting. Christians are accused of being stuck-up, self-rightious, "have absolutely no tolerence" snobs, and yet look at you people telling Tim to not post his wallpaper. Your not tolerating his view at all! The Bible tells Christians to love people, but here you guys are, hating Tim just because he posted something he believes in (and I do also, if you haven't figured it out yet). Just a thought...what if a Muslum were to post a wallpaper on kde-look.org with the Koran on it. What would be the reaction? People may not download it, and some people may not like it, but would there be many posts telling the creator of the wallpaper how his wallpaper sucks and he should keep his religion to himself? No. So why are people so opposed to Christians? If you've read some of the New Testiment you know that Christians are supposed to be kind and loving to all. That does not mean that they should accept all religions as true, but that they should treat all other people with respect. If you are one of the people who hate Tim's wallpaper, think about why you hate it/them. I don't think you'll have a very good reason. P.S. Keep up the good work, Tim!
“How very interesting. Christians are accused of being stuck-up, self-rightious, "have absolutely no tolerence" snobs, and yet look at you people telling Tim to not post his wallpaper. Your not tolerating his view at all! The Bible tells Christians to love people, but here you guys are, hating Tim just because he posted something he believes in (and I do also, if you haven't figured it out yet).” Disliking a wallpaper is not the same as hating its creator (or his believes). I for one do not hate Tim. ”Just a thought...what if a Muslum were to post a wallpaper on kde-look.org with the Koran on it. What would be the reaction? People may not download it, and some people may not like it, but would there be many posts telling the creator of the wallpaper how his wallpaper sucks and he should keep his religion to himself? No.” Are you sure? I think there will be quite a lot of negative comments some probably even insulting. We have seen it before, just like we have seen wallpapers claiming one religion to be better than another. That is the reason why some of us do not like to see wallpapers with any religious (not just Christian) or political messages. We like to keep KDE-look neutral, so everyone, irrespective of cultural and religious background can enjoy this site without being offended. There are no doubt much more appropriate websites for wallpapers with political or religious messages. This is not intolerance nor is it denying someone’s right to free speech, it's just common sense. All that is being said is that this isn’t the place for those kinds of messages. “So why are people so opposed to Christians?“ The world doesn’t work according to: you are either with us or against us. Disagreeing with some ideas is not the same as opposing. This may surprise you but some of Tim’s commentators do come from Christian backgrounds, they just don’t shout it of the roofs. “If you've read some of the New Testiment you know that Christians are supposed to be kind and loving to all. That does not mean that they should accept all religions as true, but that they should treat all other people with respect. If you are one of the people who hate Tim's wallpaper, think about why you hate it/them. I don't think you'll have a very good reason.” Once again: for most commentators hate does not come into it. Common sense does. Let’s keep KDE-look and the wallpapers free from ANY political and religious wallpapers so everyone can enjoy a nice neutral site that centres on eye-candy for KDE.
Thanks for the vote of support John. I have no plans to go anywhere for the forseeable future. This is a privately run site and as long as the owners allow my work, there's no valid reason to leave. It'd be nice if people could learn that a life of non-offense is not reasonable to expect...unless of course we all dump any and all convictions and don't express what we believe anywhere. But that is not realistic. Again, Blessings to you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, who died in our place to redeem us. Tim
"It'd be nice if people could learn that a life of non-offense is not reasonable to expect...unless of course we all dump any and all convictions and don't express what we believe anywhere. But that is not realistic." Seems to work nicely where I am. I work for an International organisation and everyone gets along nicely precisely because everyone knows that there is a time and place for everything. Oh..and I wonder..will your local church newsletter publish anything it gets send?
Hi again John: It just occurred to me that part of what is going on is not that different than what Paul had to deal with in the first century as the Gospel was just starting to be spread...I'm remembering the accounts of when he'd be beaten, thrown out of Jerusalem and left for dead...and he'd just get right back up and go back again. While I do not dare compare myself to Paul, somehow I see a parallel between attitudes then and now. If we wait till we're given "permission", we'll never be able to speak! :) I think it was Peter who underscored this principle when he said in his epistle to preach the Word, "in season and out of season". In other words, regardless of "appropriateness" or consequences. Whether you're ready or not. Whether it's on friendly turf or not. The stakes are too high. Blessings, Tim
Hi Tim, This is exactly why I urge you to post your wallpapers somewhere more appropriate like a Christian site where you will find your target audience. Not the wallpaper it self but the accompanying text can (and probably will) be offending to other visitors, especially those with an Islamic background. We don’t need a clash of religions on this site.
Horse Pucky.
I wonder if they would feel differently about this if the story was reversed? For example,it was a Christian persecuting and killing a Islamic believer. Christianity remains the only socially acceptable area for intolerance today.
*socially acceptable* --- more than that; it's Politically Correct.
Amen!.
wow what a shit excuse for a wallpaper and a shit excuse for peddling your religious bullshit here.
Lord, save us from your self appointed evangelists! Free us from their evil. Remove the myopia from their sight.
Lord, give them a quick rap upside the head, then explain to them that they don't have to use any wallpapers they don't want to.
...and open their hearts to the truth.