Description: Quoted from Psalm 139:13 and 14. The graphic was used by the permission of Faith2Action, and is a 4D sonogram of a 34 week old preborn child. Awesome!
I applaud the artist for placing the Word of God into the public eye.
To Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God himself, the Creator of life, be the glory!
The image itself is 2d, but the sonogram was a '4d'. I'm sure BrandyBuck can explain it much better, but the 'slop-o-metric' definition (a term I got from my college biology prof) is 'a 3D sonogram that includes motion'.
Tim
"4D" ultrasound is very new. It's basically a 3D video clip (three dimensions over time).
A normal two dimensional ultrasound image is actually produced by a transducer that sweeps a one dimensional sound wave across a plane. This sweep is fast enough that you can get realtime 2D images at very high rates. We're currently working on a transducer that can image a fetal mouse heart in realtime. That's so fast that you can barely see it with your eyes.
Anyway, to get a three dimensional image, you do the same by sweeping the "2D" plane across the area to be imaged. This is normally done by manually moving the transducer across the patient. There are some transesophogeal transducers that do the same with tiny motors to sweep across the 3D field to image the heart.
Getting these 3D images fast enough to produce a "4D" video is the tricky part. You grab a whole lot of data and spend a lot of time (relatively speaking) processing it. Getting them in true realtime with clinical usefulness is currently not possible, but we're working on it.
I think that Tomte is questioning some of his previous beliefs on when life begins.
Since you did not bring up the subject of abortion, I can only assume that this really touched him at a sensitive time.
I wish Tomte and his wife well with their child and know that their little girl or boy will bring them much joy.
I think that Tomte is questioning some of his previous beliefs on when life begins.
No, I don't :-)
My angriness has nothing to do with my fear of tim beeing an ant-abortionist, just the fact, that the wonder of life is to him another proof of gods existence, and that he has to "yell it in my eyes" ;), while I think it isn't, and don't want to hear about his belief, especially not spoiling an image that could be my child (wow, that sounds sick, but hey I "tolerated" a dozen of tims sh!t§y wallpapers, this one just hit a nerve and I had to let go not to burst)
First off to clarify, Not that I am supporting this wallpaper. I would like to pose a question? Do you believe there is/ or isn't a god? what proof or lack of do you have to support your claim?
Just curious
Do you believe there is/ or isn't a god?
I'm sorry, but that's none of your business and not the matter at hand.
what proof or lack of do you have to support your claim?
Belief and proof are mutualy exclusive, if I can proof it, I don't have to believe it, I'd know ... and vice versa.
The matter at hand is, that tim denies me and my wife the right to be responsible for our child and it's creation, because *god* made it inside my wifes womb (that would make god a rapist, wouldn't it?!)
If it were for people like him, π would still be considered to equal 3.0
It is left as an excercise to the reader to find the part in the bible that states this (π=3, that is ;-)
As I think that you are indeed another incarnation of tim in this forum, and that he showed in the thread belonging to the other upload of this picture in a different size, that he is a troll (I doubt his christianity, too), I'll ingore you and him, that is, you ;-) forthwith and for the foreseeable future; HAND
Wow! You really touched some nerves here. I guess people would rather shout and bluster than grow thicker skins.
Anyway, I love the wallpaper. I work on ultrasound systems myself, so that picture might even have come from a system I helped build. No one who sees a realtime 3D image of a child in its mother's womb can fail to recognize it as a living being. Unless, of course, they're lying to themselves.
Yeah!, and I didn't even say a word about abortion...just show a picture. 'tain't no "blob of cells"!
I think you said it pretty well...and the picture even more so.
Great to hear a good word from someone who knows this stuff!
Thanks,
Tim
As a 'soon to be a father', with a child in a womb, much like the one on that picture: Shame on you!
You (IMHO) are an as&#$§e using everthing possible as a vehicle for your personal belief.
I kept my mouth shut on your previous work, but this one is personal; keep your belief for yourself, I don't want to hear about it, I don't want to share it, I don't want to read about it in a place devoted to art for my desktop of choice. Shut the F*#% UP! please.
I applaud the artist for placing the Word of God into the public eye. The sweet psalmist of Israel was described by God Himself as "A man after My own heart." David was close to our Creator, Who revealed to him how delicately and infinitely complex we have been made. If it offends someone when the Truth is held forth, we who love the Truth do not care. It is better to serve and obey God than to cower before the screams and insults of those who hate Him.
Again, kudos to the artist and to the Son of God, Jesus Christ, Who empowers us to speak with boldness the Words of Life!
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I applaud the artist for placing the Word of God into the public eye. To Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God himself, the Creator of life, be the glory!
What do you mean '4D'?
The image itself is 2d, but the sonogram was a '4d'. I'm sure BrandyBuck can explain it much better, but the 'slop-o-metric' definition (a term I got from my college biology prof) is 'a 3D sonogram that includes motion'. Tim
"4D" ultrasound is very new. It's basically a 3D video clip (three dimensions over time). A normal two dimensional ultrasound image is actually produced by a transducer that sweeps a one dimensional sound wave across a plane. This sweep is fast enough that you can get realtime 2D images at very high rates. We're currently working on a transducer that can image a fetal mouse heart in realtime. That's so fast that you can barely see it with your eyes. Anyway, to get a three dimensional image, you do the same by sweeping the "2D" plane across the area to be imaged. This is normally done by manually moving the transducer across the patient. There are some transesophogeal transducers that do the same with tiny motors to sweep across the 3D field to image the heart. Getting these 3D images fast enough to produce a "4D" video is the tricky part. You grab a whole lot of data and spend a lot of time (relatively speaking) processing it. Getting them in true realtime with clinical usefulness is currently not possible, but we're working on it.
I think that Tomte is questioning some of his previous beliefs on when life begins. Since you did not bring up the subject of abortion, I can only assume that this really touched him at a sensitive time. I wish Tomte and his wife well with their child and know that their little girl or boy will bring them much joy.
I am in full agreement with you.
I think that Tomte is questioning some of his previous beliefs on when life begins. No, I don't :-) My angriness has nothing to do with my fear of tim beeing an ant-abortionist, just the fact, that the wonder of life is to him another proof of gods existence, and that he has to "yell it in my eyes" ;), while I think it isn't, and don't want to hear about his belief, especially not spoiling an image that could be my child (wow, that sounds sick, but hey I "tolerated" a dozen of tims sh!t§y wallpapers, this one just hit a nerve and I had to let go not to burst)
First off to clarify, Not that I am supporting this wallpaper. I would like to pose a question? Do you believe there is/ or isn't a god? what proof or lack of do you have to support your claim? Just curious
Do you believe there is/ or isn't a god? I'm sorry, but that's none of your business and not the matter at hand. what proof or lack of do you have to support your claim? Belief and proof are mutualy exclusive, if I can proof it, I don't have to believe it, I'd know ... and vice versa. The matter at hand is, that tim denies me and my wife the right to be responsible for our child and it's creation, because *god* made it inside my wifes womb (that would make god a rapist, wouldn't it?!) If it were for people like him, π would still be considered to equal 3.0 It is left as an excercise to the reader to find the part in the bible that states this (π=3, that is ;-) As I think that you are indeed another incarnation of tim in this forum, and that he showed in the thread belonging to the other upload of this picture in a different size, that he is a troll (I doubt his christianity, too), I'll ingore you and him, that is, you ;-) forthwith and for the foreseeable future; HAND
Wow! You really touched some nerves here. I guess people would rather shout and bluster than grow thicker skins. Anyway, I love the wallpaper. I work on ultrasound systems myself, so that picture might even have come from a system I helped build. No one who sees a realtime 3D image of a child in its mother's womb can fail to recognize it as a living being. Unless, of course, they're lying to themselves.
Yeah!, and I didn't even say a word about abortion...just show a picture. 'tain't no "blob of cells"! I think you said it pretty well...and the picture even more so. Great to hear a good word from someone who knows this stuff! Thanks, Tim
You know, I'm 100% anti-abortion and I still don't agree with you doing this. But it's your gig, so whatever.
As a 'soon to be a father', with a child in a womb, much like the one on that picture: Shame on you! You (IMHO) are an as&#$§e using everthing possible as a vehicle for your personal belief. I kept my mouth shut on your previous work, but this one is personal; keep your belief for yourself, I don't want to hear about it, I don't want to share it, I don't want to read about it in a place devoted to art for my desktop of choice. Shut the F*#% UP! please.
I applaud the artist for placing the Word of God into the public eye. The sweet psalmist of Israel was described by God Himself as "A man after My own heart." David was close to our Creator, Who revealed to him how delicately and infinitely complex we have been made. If it offends someone when the Truth is held forth, we who love the Truth do not care. It is better to serve and obey God than to cower before the screams and insults of those who hate Him. Again, kudos to the artist and to the Son of God, Jesus Christ, Who empowers us to speak with boldness the Words of Life!
tomte, You are guilty of expressing your beliefs. Shame on you !