This is exactly what these Christian Freeks want...a debate on Christianity, as the old saying goes "whats wrong with two Jews arguing about the Torah? nothing! just as long as there talking about the Torah"
Votes there stupid shit down, and ignore them, don't waste your time replying to there rubbish and adding significance to it.
I personally think there problem is simply psychological, If anyone is moderating this site, they sure would be all too correct in removing all this Christian bullshit, it's simply sick !
Again, IGNORE THE ASSHOLES!
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. (John 15:19)And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. (John 16:3)Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life (1:st John 3:13-14a)These things I command you, that ye love one another. (John 15:17)
If anyone who does not believe ponders why Christians are hated even though they make little or even no harm - in fact they make pretty much good - it is because of the devil. Anyone who is of the truth, who loves the truth, WILL realize that there it's something NOT in order... (This is also why Jews are hated in non-christian parts (regions who lives in desperation and darkness) of the world, because the Jews are still the chosen people of God. The New Covenant is with the Jewish people, but gentiles can also be saved through repentance, trusting in what Jesus the Messiah did on the Cross, when He payed the price for our sins. But regardless of who you are you need to repent of your evil deeds because EVERYONE has sinned and FALLEN. Jesus payed your penalty. It's nothing but madness to reject such a FREE gift. The devil blinds people, cus he wants them to literally perish in Hell!)
And God is testing people. He knows those that would follow Him even though it may bring ridicule. If you have to choose between to live a life in TRUTH or in a LIE, choose the truth, no regard to the cost at all. For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? (Mark 8:36) But it's your choice.
Jesus Saves.
I am sitting here reading all the comments, and not understanding all the bitter replies from everyone here. Why are you so offended, none of Tims wallpapers are offensive. If Tim is a true christian he is posting these IN LOVE. The entire message of the gospel is about LOVE. God sent his son to this earth to die for us because he LOVED us. Christians share because they LOVE. That sounds strange how can we LOVE when people spit in our face for our faith and sling mud at us, how can we do this, how can we LOVE. Its because God LOVED us more than we can ever imagine. If you don't want anything to do with this LOVE ignore it, its a gift its not up to christians to make you take it, its up to us to make it known to people that haven't heard and to make it clear to people who don't understand. Thank you
I am sitting here reading all the comments, and not understanding all the bitter replies from everyone here. Why are you so offended, none of Tims wallpapers are offensive.
First of all, they may not seem offensive to you but may well be offensive to others.
Secondly most of the bitter reply's are from people who think Tim is simply abusing KDE-look to push his religious ideas. Take a look at his wallpapers. They are generally nothing more than simple (gradient) backgrounds with some clipart and text pasted on to them. Anyone with very basic Gimp skills can make such a wallpaper in just a few minutes. But that seems to be the idea: massproduction. It seems Tim cares more about spreading "the Word" than in creating nice wallpapers. If it was just one wallpaper that wouldn't be such a problem..but he seems intent on continously flooding this site with those rubishy wallpapers.
And than there is his behaviour. Yesterday he flooded the frontpage of KDE-look because he "updated" some wallpapers that had received bad ratings in the past and had dropped below the 30% threshold. He doesn't seem to like the voting system obscuring his messages. In my opinion he showed no respect for KDE-look by doing so.
So the bitterness is easily explained: Most of Tim's critics see Tim as nothing more than an anoying spammer.
Okay, I haven't commented on any of these flames, because... they're just stupid flames. :-) BUT, I have read the Christian Bible and all I can say is: That's seriously some weird love going on! Killing your non-virgin child is NOT love (Deuteronomy 22:13-21). You give a kidney out of love, not bleed them dry. Telling people you've come to make war is NOT love (Matthew 10:34). Creating evil (Isaiah 45:7) is NOT love. Killing "little ones" is NOT love (Psalm 137:8-9), nor is being happy while doing it.
There are more, but I'm rather tired. Good night to you all. :-)
I really would like to understand why you react like this ?
Why did you turn your back to Faith? (if that really happened )
It seems your life has become bitter ?
Taking the history of christianity into account, you don't have to wonder about it. Christianity has a long history of "Hey, wanna join me? No? Burn, heretic!". You say that Jesus loves me, but he will tear my balls off if I don't follow him. It's hard to see any love there.
Your statement is not an uncommon one. Howver, it stems from what I will, as politely as possible, state is an errant understanding of an unbeliever's relationship with God....
1. We are all sinners in the face of a holy God. We are a fallen race. "All have sinned and fallen short of the GLory of God." Originally, we were made in a pure state. Then the rebellion came in Adam.
2. God, Who made us, is not just "loving" but also "just". Because of this, his justice demands to be satisfied. "The wages of sin is death..."
3. God, because he is Holy, Just and created us, has the perfect right to blow us all away and send us all to hell in an instant. Frankly, that would be His perfect right to do that.
But it's His Mercy that keeps him from doing it.
4. Because you and I cannot pay the debt for our sin against an infinitely holy God, someone else had to do it. That person was Himself, revealed in the person of Jesus Christ.
Your "debt" due to sin is infinite. You could never pay it...So, the Judge, in this case, has come down from the bench, taken off his robe, and paid it himself.
THAT, my friend, is love. He was under NO obligation to do that.
We are not puppets. He doesn't force you to accept what He has done. What he DOES do (and rightly) is tell you to repent and trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ.
It is Christ's resurrection from the dead that tells us that His sacrifice (payment) for our sin is acceptable. It's not an allegory or fairy tale. It happened in time/space/history.
So, Jesus stands there, looks you in the face and says "What will you do with me"? Will you turn around (repent) and take Him as your own? Or will you reject Him and pay the just cost for your sin.
You see, God wants you to enjoy Him and His presence. But your sin has separated you from God. Justice demands payment. Love has paid it. So if you go to hell, it's because you've refused to accept the payment on your bahalf.
God is looking for people who want to fellowship with and enjoy Him forever.
Jesus Christ Himself said that He is "THE way, THE truth, and THE life...no one comes to the Father but by..." Christ.
God is offering you an infinitely gracious gift, my friend.
Tim
Oh, come on. Even if I believed what you said, there is no connection to justice. God makes the laws, plays both judge and jury and enforces the sentence - that's called despotism.
If what you say is true, god has about the same love for humankind as your average dictator has for his people. And you even fall for it.
Because God *made* everything, He also *owns* everything. Being omcnicient, he (unlike a human judge and jury) know all the facts necessary to make a proper judgement.
God is HOLY. WE are NOT. On our own we can't approach God...but he made a way. If you reject his solution to the dilemma, there is no other way out. He cannot exercise one attribute at the expense of another, so since you reject the payment he made for you, you must make the payment. But the *legal debt* must be paid...by either you or another...in this case, Jesus Christ.
-- tim
do you remember what was before birth?
Let's not take into account rebirth-believing religions, so there was NOTHING. You wouldnt think and you wouldn't dream.
So, what's gonna be after death?
NOTHING. Get real ppl. You're all scared the hell of dying, so you have to find silly answers to this complex question, instead of the most obvious, but of course, you don't wanna cease to exist.
Scared, you're all scared, of dying and of living.
Nothing is forever. Not even you, moron.
Actually, i don't expect a intelligent answer, just some silly evasions from your side.
...
What I forgot, is if the artwork would have been any medium to half good, it would be okay, if anybody would wanna have these silly propaganda on his desktop let em have it, but its shit.
Complete bullshit.
Apparantly not.
Oh, well.
I have so far refrained from abuse in the hope of engaging you in considered discourse.
No more.
You are nothing more than a sad individual who I pity.
Though, you did cheer me up the other morning when looking at some of your crap. You know that no matter how gbad things get, it could be worse. I COULD BE LIKE YOU!
(Oh, you had delusions of persecution on one of your postings. If you feel the need for this to complete your percieved struggle to convert the world, let me know and I'll happily oblige.)
This must be from your early period. Not even a gradient as background! Not that it matters. Like all your wallpapers this can be knocked up in 5 minutes by just about anybody with some very basic Gimp skills.
Your skills don't seem to evolve, but I suppose that is only to be expected from someone who doesn't believe in evolutionary processes ;)
Cristianity has killed more people than all of the world wars put together. To a christian anything done in the name of their god is ok, including murdering millions of people that don't believe what they do in order to "convert" them and force their religion onto them. You people make me sick, you are so obsessed with your frightening religion you can't even make a normal wallpaper without incorporating your beliefs into it.
I'd like you to give a scrap of evidence for this. The amount of people killed by some corrupt catholics (so called "christians"), during the crusades do not account for more bloodshed of the world wars. And how about the athiests Stalin and Hitler, and the MILLIONS they murdered? Or do we ignore those?
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Look, this is a KDE content site, let me say what I said before. I don't think this is the place for it. K?
This is exactly what these Christian Freeks want...a debate on Christianity, as the old saying goes "whats wrong with two Jews arguing about the Torah? nothing! just as long as there talking about the Torah" Votes there stupid shit down, and ignore them, don't waste your time replying to there rubbish and adding significance to it. I personally think there problem is simply psychological, If anyone is moderating this site, they sure would be all too correct in removing all this Christian bullshit, it's simply sick ! Again, IGNORE THE ASSHOLES!
Excuse me, freeks? Is this not supposed to be the day and age of "religous tolerance"? Shame on you!!!!
Thank you, God bless your soul!
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. (John 15:19) And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. (John 16:3) Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life (1:st John 3:13-14a) These things I command you, that ye love one another. (John 15:17) If anyone who does not believe ponders why Christians are hated even though they make little or even no harm - in fact they make pretty much good - it is because of the devil. Anyone who is of the truth, who loves the truth, WILL realize that there it's something NOT in order... (This is also why Jews are hated in non-christian parts (regions who lives in desperation and darkness) of the world, because the Jews are still the chosen people of God. The New Covenant is with the Jewish people, but gentiles can also be saved through repentance, trusting in what Jesus the Messiah did on the Cross, when He payed the price for our sins. But regardless of who you are you need to repent of your evil deeds because EVERYONE has sinned and FALLEN. Jesus payed your penalty. It's nothing but madness to reject such a FREE gift. The devil blinds people, cus he wants them to literally perish in Hell!) And God is testing people. He knows those that would follow Him even though it may bring ridicule. If you have to choose between to live a life in TRUTH or in a LIE, choose the truth, no regard to the cost at all. For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? (Mark 8:36) But it's your choice. Jesus Saves.
I am sitting here reading all the comments, and not understanding all the bitter replies from everyone here. Why are you so offended, none of Tims wallpapers are offensive. If Tim is a true christian he is posting these IN LOVE. The entire message of the gospel is about LOVE. God sent his son to this earth to die for us because he LOVED us. Christians share because they LOVE. That sounds strange how can we LOVE when people spit in our face for our faith and sling mud at us, how can we do this, how can we LOVE. Its because God LOVED us more than we can ever imagine. If you don't want anything to do with this LOVE ignore it, its a gift its not up to christians to make you take it, its up to us to make it known to people that haven't heard and to make it clear to people who don't understand. Thank you
Thank you. I couldn't have said it any better. -- tim
I am sitting here reading all the comments, and not understanding all the bitter replies from everyone here. Why are you so offended, none of Tims wallpapers are offensive. First of all, they may not seem offensive to you but may well be offensive to others. Secondly most of the bitter reply's are from people who think Tim is simply abusing KDE-look to push his religious ideas. Take a look at his wallpapers. They are generally nothing more than simple (gradient) backgrounds with some clipart and text pasted on to them. Anyone with very basic Gimp skills can make such a wallpaper in just a few minutes. But that seems to be the idea: massproduction. It seems Tim cares more about spreading "the Word" than in creating nice wallpapers. If it was just one wallpaper that wouldn't be such a problem..but he seems intent on continously flooding this site with those rubishy wallpapers. And than there is his behaviour. Yesterday he flooded the frontpage of KDE-look because he "updated" some wallpapers that had received bad ratings in the past and had dropped below the 30% threshold. He doesn't seem to like the voting system obscuring his messages. In my opinion he showed no respect for KDE-look by doing so. So the bitterness is easily explained: Most of Tim's critics see Tim as nothing more than an anoying spammer.
continue to spread the GOOD NEWS
No sweat, brother!
Okay, I haven't commented on any of these flames, because... they're just stupid flames. :-) BUT, I have read the Christian Bible and all I can say is: That's seriously some weird love going on! Killing your non-virgin child is NOT love (Deuteronomy 22:13-21). You give a kidney out of love, not bleed them dry. Telling people you've come to make war is NOT love (Matthew 10:34). Creating evil (Isaiah 45:7) is NOT love. Killing "little ones" is NOT love (Psalm 137:8-9), nor is being happy while doing it. There are more, but I'm rather tired. Good night to you all. :-)
I really would like to understand why you react like this ? Why did you turn your back to Faith? (if that really happened ) It seems your life has become bitter ?
Taking the history of christianity into account, you don't have to wonder about it. Christianity has a long history of "Hey, wanna join me? No? Burn, heretic!". You say that Jesus loves me, but he will tear my balls off if I don't follow him. It's hard to see any love there.
Your statement is not an uncommon one. Howver, it stems from what I will, as politely as possible, state is an errant understanding of an unbeliever's relationship with God.... 1. We are all sinners in the face of a holy God. We are a fallen race. "All have sinned and fallen short of the GLory of God." Originally, we were made in a pure state. Then the rebellion came in Adam. 2. God, Who made us, is not just "loving" but also "just". Because of this, his justice demands to be satisfied. "The wages of sin is death..." 3. God, because he is Holy, Just and created us, has the perfect right to blow us all away and send us all to hell in an instant. Frankly, that would be His perfect right to do that. But it's His Mercy that keeps him from doing it. 4. Because you and I cannot pay the debt for our sin against an infinitely holy God, someone else had to do it. That person was Himself, revealed in the person of Jesus Christ. Your "debt" due to sin is infinite. You could never pay it...So, the Judge, in this case, has come down from the bench, taken off his robe, and paid it himself. THAT, my friend, is love. He was under NO obligation to do that. We are not puppets. He doesn't force you to accept what He has done. What he DOES do (and rightly) is tell you to repent and trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ. It is Christ's resurrection from the dead that tells us that His sacrifice (payment) for our sin is acceptable. It's not an allegory or fairy tale. It happened in time/space/history. So, Jesus stands there, looks you in the face and says "What will you do with me"? Will you turn around (repent) and take Him as your own? Or will you reject Him and pay the just cost for your sin. You see, God wants you to enjoy Him and His presence. But your sin has separated you from God. Justice demands payment. Love has paid it. So if you go to hell, it's because you've refused to accept the payment on your bahalf. God is looking for people who want to fellowship with and enjoy Him forever. Jesus Christ Himself said that He is "THE way, THE truth, and THE life...no one comes to the Father but by..." Christ. God is offering you an infinitely gracious gift, my friend. Tim
Oh, come on. Even if I believed what you said, there is no connection to justice. God makes the laws, plays both judge and jury and enforces the sentence - that's called despotism. If what you say is true, god has about the same love for humankind as your average dictator has for his people. And you even fall for it.
Because God *made* everything, He also *owns* everything. Being omcnicient, he (unlike a human judge and jury) know all the facts necessary to make a proper judgement. God is HOLY. WE are NOT. On our own we can't approach God...but he made a way. If you reject his solution to the dilemma, there is no other way out. He cannot exercise one attribute at the expense of another, so since you reject the payment he made for you, you must make the payment. But the *legal debt* must be paid...by either you or another...in this case, Jesus Christ. -- tim
Anybody worried about getting to heaven after death does not really get it. Living the "good" life is the reward in and of itself.
do you remember what was before birth? Let's not take into account rebirth-believing religions, so there was NOTHING. You wouldnt think and you wouldn't dream. So, what's gonna be after death? NOTHING. Get real ppl. You're all scared the hell of dying, so you have to find silly answers to this complex question, instead of the most obvious, but of course, you don't wanna cease to exist. Scared, you're all scared, of dying and of living. Nothing is forever. Not even you, moron.
Actually, i don't expect a intelligent answer, just some silly evasions from your side. ... What I forgot, is if the artwork would have been any medium to half good, it would be okay, if anybody would wanna have these silly propaganda on his desktop let em have it, but its shit. Complete bullshit.
Hi Tim, Would you at least do me the courtesy of telling my you do not respond to my questions?
Apparantly not. Oh, well. I have so far refrained from abuse in the hope of engaging you in considered discourse. No more. You are nothing more than a sad individual who I pity. Though, you did cheer me up the other morning when looking at some of your crap. You know that no matter how gbad things get, it could be worse. I COULD BE LIKE YOU! (Oh, you had delusions of persecution on one of your postings. If you feel the need for this to complete your percieved struggle to convert the world, let me know and I'll happily oblige.)
This must be from your early period. Not even a gradient as background! Not that it matters. Like all your wallpapers this can be knocked up in 5 minutes by just about anybody with some very basic Gimp skills. Your skills don't seem to evolve, but I suppose that is only to be expected from someone who doesn't believe in evolutionary processes ;)
"I don't plan to live forever through my works, I plan to live forever by not dying." -Woody Allen
Cristianity has killed more people than all of the world wars put together. To a christian anything done in the name of their god is ok, including murdering millions of people that don't believe what they do in order to "convert" them and force their religion onto them. You people make me sick, you are so obsessed with your frightening religion you can't even make a normal wallpaper without incorporating your beliefs into it.
I'd like you to give a scrap of evidence for this. The amount of people killed by some corrupt catholics (so called "christians"), during the crusades do not account for more bloodshed of the world wars. And how about the athiests Stalin and Hitler, and the MILLIONS they murdered? Or do we ignore those?