try ./configure --prefix /usr/kde/3.5/

This sort of thing is exactly what I need! I realised this yesterday whilst attempting to sort my bookmarks; there was no way I was going to do that effectively without tags. I use del.icio.us regularly (or normally), but the delicious sidebar isn't good enough for this. Firefox has a few delicious extensions that replace its bookmark system with one based on your delicious account, and although that's quite helpful, I prefer to use Konqueror whilst using KDE. It would be spectacular to see something like this replace the current bookmark system in Konqueror whether it be for 3.x or 4.x. Thank you for putting the effort into this project! It will be invaluable in sorting my hundreds of bookmarks.

Hey, thanks for your comments. As some of you may hav noted, there wasn't any new release of KBookmarkNG. For now I dropped the idea of replacing KDE's bookmark system with KBookmarkNG. First I'm going to look at what e.g. Tenor has to offer... I'm also considering doing some improvements to KBookmark again instead of putting too much energy into creating something new.

I love the idea of context-based search using meta-data. It's much more intuitive, and follows human thought more closely.

However, IMHO, I feel that requiring a user to specify which categories these pages fall into requires as much work as organizing bookmarks into nice, neat folders. A much more convenient method would be a way of automatically filing these bookmarks into categories based upon the text that is contained in their respective web pages.

Is there any way to, say, store the archived text (minus the HTML) of a webpage that has been bookmarked, or at least some of the topic headings on it, parse these archived copies for similarities and then group them accordingly in a database?

Now, I am not a programmer, so I am completely unsure of even how feasible it is to set up an automatic system of categorization. But, for the sake of theorhetical conjecture, I'd like to note a couple of previous implementations that I'm familiar with.

Spamassassin does an interesting job of categorizing using complex algorithms, but does so only into two categories: spam and not-spam. Not exactly scaleable into what we're talking about here.

If you stop and think about it, Google does this exact thing: it categorizes web pages based upon the text that they contain, but also includes the additional variable of voting (aka: PageRank).

I've read the KDE is planning on implementing a context browser into KDE 4 [1]. Mind you, this is for files that are stored on the local drive. I've read more about this elsewhere. I believe that what KDE has is mind is a project called Tenor [2]. Not entirely sure, but at least, it's going to be like it very much.

Also, there's Beagle (GNOME) [3], WinFS, and Spotlight (Mac OS X Tiger) [4], which all promise the same functionality as Tenor. I read here [5] that BeOS's befs file system also had similar features.

My point is, it might be interesting to look at some of the other projects that are out there that are also starting to get into organizing content by metadata, rather than the traditional file-folder way.

Thanks for all of your hard work!

Kris Kerwin kkerwin@insightbb.com --- Footnoted Links --- [1] http://aseigo.bddf.ca/?pID=1221 [2] http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/5816/1/ [3] http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/ [4] http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/spotlight/ [5] http://www.guilinux.com/viewtopic.php?topic=323&forum=29

IMHO it *has* to be possible to select more than one topic at once to get the bookmarks that are in both topics (i.e. in computer there's everything related to computers, in games there's everything related to games such as board games, computer games, video games etc, if I select both I see all bookmarks concerning computer games). You can do something like that by creating subtopics for every conceivable combination but that more or less negates the main reason for using a topic based instead of folder based bookmarks system. There's no problem if this replaces the old system in KDE4 as long as there is a compatibility mode. This system is perfectly capable of emulating the old bookmarks system =) Lots and lots of small things (you can't open a bookmark by double clicking on it, manipulating more than one at once is a chore, the search resets if you edit/manipulate one of the results, lack of columns (last visited, last changed, added, notes, etc), dynamic lists (every bookmark added in the last 4 weeks, etc), the new topic button in the bookmark properties doesn't create anything (at least if there's no parent topic), there should be a way that the programs remembers the position in a list when switching between lists and many more). In other words, it would be nice to get another release =)

this looks nice, i have recently started writing a similar program, but its not as finished as yours :) the only thing i find not-so-good about it is that the menu entries isnt there, i had to set a shortcut key to get my kde bookmarks imported :) also, a systray would kick-ass

Please, I think this is a great approach for bookmark, but I couldn't try because make gives me the following error in Suse 9.1: view.o `test -f 'view.cpp' || echo './'`view.cpp view.cpp:31:33: klistviewsearchline.h: No such file or directory view.cpp: In constructor `kbookmarkng::View::View(KMainWindow*, QWidget*, const char*, unsigned int)': view.cpp:68: error: invalid use of undefined type `struct KListViewSearchLine' view.h:24: error: forward declaration of `struct KListViewSearchLine' view.cpp:69: error: no matching function for call to `QLabel::setBuddy( KListViewSearchLine*&)' /usr/lib/qt3/include/qlabel.h:95: error: candidates are: virtual void QLabel::setBuddy(QWidget*) view.cpp:73: error: no matching function for call to `QHBoxLayout::addWidget( KListViewSearchLine*&)' /usr/lib/qt3/include/qlayout.h:386: error: candidates are: void QBoxLayout::addWidget(QWidget*, int, int) view.cpp:83: error: `setSearchColumns' undeclared (first use this function) view.cpp:83: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) view.cpp:84: error: `setCaseSensitive' undeclared (first use this function) view.cpp:85: error: `setListView' undeclared (first use this function) view.cpp:88: error: no matching function for call to `kbookmarkng::View:: connect(QToolButton*&, const char[11], KListViewSearchLine*&, const char[9]) ' /usr/lib/qt3/include/qobject.h:116: error: candidates are: static bool QObject::connect(const QObject*, const char*, const QObject*, const char*) /usr/lib/qt3/include/qobject.h:227: error: bool QObject::connect(const QObject*, const char*, const char*) const view.cpp: In destructor `virtual kbookmarkng::View::~View()': view.cpp:109: error: `searchColumns' undeclared (first use this function) make[3]: *** [view.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/gordo/Programs/kbookmarkng-0.4/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/gordo/Programs/kbookmarkng-0.4/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gordo/Programs/kbookmarkng-0.4' make: *** [all] Error 2 Please could you help. I have installed Qt3-devel. Thnks a lot.

I don't think it's a practical aproach. It's good if you use KbookmarkNG like a diferent app from konqueror but embedded it will be a pain in the ass IMHO.

this is a very good approach, it makes a lot of sense! I will certainly watch the development closely. Thanks, Matt